Brody:

Real quick, the born alive infant protection act. I gotta tell you that's the one thing I get a lot of emails about and it's just not just from Evangelicals, it about Catholics, Protestants, main -- they're trying to understand it because there was some literature put out by the National Right to Life Committee. And they're basically saying they felt like you misrepresented your position on that bill.

 Obama:

 Let me clarify this right now.

 Obama:

 Well and because they have not been telling the truth. And I hate to say that people are lying, but here's a situation where folks are lying. I have said repeatedly that I would have been completely in, fully in support of the federal bill that everybody supported - which was to say --that you should provide assistance to any infant that was born - even if it was as a consequence of an induced abortion. That was not the bill that was presented at the state level. What that bill also was doing was trying to undermine Roe vs. Wade. By the way, we also had a bill, a law already in place in Illinois that insured life saving treatment was given to infants.

So for people to suggest that I and the Illinois medical society, so Illinois doctors were somehow in favor of withholding life saving support from an infant born alive is ridiculous. It defies commonsense and it defies imagination and for people to keep on pushing this is offensive and it's an example of the kind of politics that we have to get beyond. It's one thing for people to disagree with me about the issue of choice, it's another thing for people to out and out misrepresent my positions repeatedly, even after they know that they're wrong. And that's what's been happening.

 THE ILLINOISE LEGISLATION

                                                                                               House Vote: 

STAFF:  Brock Willeford (524-1588)                              Administration Bill:  No

DATE:  3/10/03                                 REVISED:  3/13/03

Fiscal Impact or Mandate:  None

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“Born Alive Infant” definition and other protections

EFFECTIVE DATE:  Immediate

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COMMITTEE VOTE:           Do Pass As Amended

4-YES                   6-NO                                                           0-PRESENT

OBAMA, CH            N               RIGHTER, MS        Y
HUNTER, VC           N               Radogno                   Y
Crotty                        N               Syverson                   Y
Garrett                      N               Wojcik                       Y
Martinez                 
Ronen                       N
Schoenberg              N

(5 ILCS 70/1.36 new)

SYNOPSIS:  SB 1082 amends the Statute on Statutes to define “born alive infant”.

SB 1082 provides that interpreting any statute, rule, or regulation, the words “person”, “human being”, “child”, and “individual” include every infant member of the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development. SB 1082 provides that a live child born as a result of an abortion shall be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate protection under the law.

BACKGROUND:  SB 1082 is in response to instances at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn where abortions resulted in living infants who were then allowed to die without medical or comfort care.  Language similar to HB 1082 has passed the United States House of Representatives. 

SB 1662 (O’Malley/Winkel, 92^nd GA) was identical legislation that passed the Senate 30-12-10 and died in the House Health Care Committee 2-8-0.

SB 1095 (O’Malley/Johnson, 92^nd GA) was identical legislation that passed the Senate 35-5-13 and died in the House Civil Judiciary Committee 6-5-1. 

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SB 1082

STAFF ANALYSIS:  SB 1082 defines “born alive infant” with respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or extraction from its mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after that expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion.

SB 1082 provides that a live child born as a result of an abortion shall be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate protection under the law.

SB 1082 provides that interpreting any statute, rule, or regulation, the words “person”, “human being”, “child”, and “individual” include every infant member of the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development. 

 SEMANTICS ???

 1.      Merriam-Webster’s Online Thesaurus

             liar

One entry found.

Entry Word:  liar

Text: a person who tells lies <she knew he was a liar when he started claiming that he was an astronaut>

Synonyms : fabricator, fibber, prevaricator, storyteller

Related Words: defamer, libeler (or libeller), slanderer; perjurer; distorter, falsifier; equivocator, palterer; gossip, gossiper, talebearer; charlatan, cheat, cheater, confidence man, counterfeiter, cozener, deceiver, defrauder, dissembler, dissimulator, double-dealer, fraud, hustler, mountebank, pretender

2.      Pathological Liars and Antisocial  Personality Disorders

          The criteria for the Antisocial Personality Disorder… more traditional psychopathic traits such as a lack of empathy, superficial charm, and inflated self appraisal. Lack of remorse is not included among other things because of cases that show that it does exist. For example the antisocial person may show guilt or remorse and offer excuses and rationalizations. However, over a period of time, remorse or guilt over an action/crime may be lost.

 Diagnostic criteria

Three or more of the following are required:

1. Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
2. Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
3. Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead;
4. Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;
5. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others;
6. Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;
7. Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another.

Symptoms

Characteristics of people with antisocial personality disorder may include:

• Persistent lying or stealing
• Recurring difficulties with the law
• Tendency to violate the rights and boundaries of others
• Substance abuse
• Aggressive, often violent behavior; prone to getting involved in fights
• A persistent agitated or depressed feeling
• Inability to tolerate boredom
• Disregard for the safety of self or others
• A childhood diagnosis of conduct disorders - this is not a symptom but "a history of"
• Lack of remorse, related to hurting others
• Superficial charm
• Impulsiveness
• A sense of extreme entitlement
• Inability to make or keep friends
• Recklessness, impulsivity
• People with a diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder often experience difficulties with authority figures.

3.                 A BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA LIAR (all of the above)

4.       Now who is the LIAR?